4/29/2023 0 Comments The journey back word![]() Kathy Grace, uh, describe the transgender revolution. Jim: Yeah, and we’re going to, again, we’re going to unfold that. They’re struggling, and, uh, so this term has sort of been used to, uh, help put the focus on how do we address this issue, how do we help them, how do we come alongside them, how do we help them understand that this part of their life, most likely, over a period of time, they’re going to regret or have, uh, as Kathy Grace and I have found out, you’re going to want to revert back and come to where the Lord. For whatever reason, they’re not comfortable with who they are. But the term is to help people, uh, kind of shape this umbrella term around people who struggle with their identity. You can change your appearance and make yourself look different, but you don’t actually transgender. You know, that would suggest that they can actually change from one gender to the other, but I tried it for eight years and you really can’t change. Walt: The term transgender is kind of an interesting word and, over the, the last several years, I’ve come to understand that, actually, no one really transgenders. We’re not really oriented to the language and even to that part of the culture. Ag- again, as we said in the setup there, I don’t think, in the Christian community, it’s not our day-to-day activity. Jim: It’s really good to have you and we’re going to get to your amazing stories in just a minute, but, first, uh, give us a general understanding of this term transgender. Jim: Uh, Walt and Kathy Grace, welcome to Focus on the Family. And Kathy Grace identified as a man for 11 years and, uh, she’s active in the Changed movement and volunteers with Portland Fellowship, a ministry center that helps men and women discover Bible-based freedom from unwanted same sex desires and relationships. ![]() ![]() Uh, he’s an author and a speaker who travels extensively to share his story of redemption at conferences, churches, and universities. Uh, he now has a passion to help others who regret gender change. Walt identified as a transgender woman for eight years. And they are Walt Heyer and Kathy Grace Duncan and they’ve joined us in the studio. And so our goal is to equip people, Christians particularly, and we know some non-Christians are listening too, and we hope to equip everybody with more knowledge about this topic, the way that people have suffered through these situations and come out on the other side embracing God, and that’s the story of our two guests today. On the other side of culture, there’s a building momentum pushing towards this normalization and acceptance. We’re not well educated about this issue of transgenderedism and yet, college campuses, they are going to the nth degree to tell incoming freshmen what it means and how you need to talk to people and what pronoun needs to be used, etc. Jim: Uh, John, this is one of the most difficult issues, uh, for Christian families to navigate today because it has become such a social dynamic and, uh, you know, for many Christians, we don’t know what it is. Your host is Focus president Jim Daly and I’m John Fuller. Now this is an important topic, but it’s not going to be appropriate for younger listeners and we’re going to be examining transgenderism and how this issue is reshaping concepts of identity in our society. We also have Kathy Grace Duncan joining us. John Fuller: Isn’t that a really powerful statement? Uh, that’s Walt Heyer and he shares about his struggle with gender confusion on today’s episode of Focus on the Family. Made me realize what a lie I had been living. I’m out here with a new birth record, I’ve had all these hormones and surgeries put in my body, and none of it actually was capable of changing me. Walt: … just a point where, wait a minute, I’m not even a woman. Walt Heyer: When I came to the realization that the surgery and the hormones, none of that actually changed me.
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